If I had the choice, I'd too take unloading a truck, rather than winding those coils, any day Nasty type of work if you ask me.Then you should also know how nice coils are (once made that is), I for one have had some very nice experiences with inductors, and as the copper price has gone down a bit, they're not even all that expensive anymore.As Zen Mod says, I used a lathe for winding them, but to tell you the truth, it didn't make much of a difference to how sore you get -And no, we don't have that much equal rights here, that I get inductors served for a hug and a kiss Magura