Zen Mod Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Share #1 Napisano Jun 30, 2022 copy/paste from Big DiyA Preceding thread here : https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/zms-2sk2087c-musings-phase-one-sissysit-as-cradle.386654/ What was logical precursor/reason to dust off schematic I'm having for some time and to implement it in form of new pcbs, arranged so both Tokin Pucks and Tokin 2SK2087 can be used Novelty - reason enough for playing with, is full DC connection from input to output, and also current-mirrors based biasing circuit Nota Bene that DC connection between FE and OS is typical Cheating Papaway - anyway, see it by yourself, draw your own conclusions Changes vs. SissySIT R.3 - none regarding sound (had my time with farting elephants, life is simpler after that), even steadier output DC Offset and Iq stability, vs. time, temperature, mains fluctuation As I can see, there is some better drive (shown in clipping level for Big One) but these differences are strictly academic ones, sorta pity that this amp is never going to be considered by Audiophools, having all pizzas for great Drek-selling Story :devilr: as always, basic pics first LightMatic and Vix je reagovao/la na ovo 2 Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Autor Share #2 Napisano Jun 30, 2022 today's funny pics as you can see, done it all first with THF51S in output, so I can compare measurements of these with measurements with 2SK2087C in place logically, 2SK2087C in place for second set of measurements LightMatic and Vix je reagovao/la na ovo 1 1 Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Autor Share #3 Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Now, battery of tests Will post same measurement of THF51S and 2SK2087C in same post, trying that THF51S is on left side pic; anyway, THF51S related are not having type note, while for 2SK2087C I remembered to include note in caption go figure general trend, already established in thread liniked in first post, small one is having lesser THD levels than big one, all the way to clipping , and small one is having lesser power than big one in all cases - dual rails, 24Vdc-ish, Iq 1A8-ish 1W@8R Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Autor Share #4 Napisano Jun 30, 2022 5W@8R Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Autor Share #5 Napisano Jun 30, 2022 10W@8R Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Autor Share #6 Napisano Jun 30, 2022 15W@8R Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Autor Share #7 Napisano Jun 30, 2022 small one is done with power 20W@8R THF51S: Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Autor Share #8 Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Freq. 8R Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Autor Share #9 Napisano Jun 30, 2022 THD vs Freq. 8R Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Autor Share #10 Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Now, comparison of graphs, load 4R starting with 1W@4R Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Autor Share #11 Napisano Jun 30, 2022 5W@4R Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Autor Share #12 Napisano Jun 30, 2022 10W@4R Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Autor Share #13 Napisano Jun 30, 2022 15W@4R Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Autor Share #14 Napisano Jun 30, 2022 20W@4R Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Autor Share #15 Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Small one is done with power @4R 25W and 30W@4R of big one Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Autor Share #16 Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Freq. 4R Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Autor Share #17 Napisano Jun 30, 2022 THD vs. Freq. 4R Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Jun 30, 2022 Autor Share #18 Napisano Jun 30, 2022 So , some conclusion(s) - 2SK2087 is worthy one in SissySIT cradle, whichever revision is in case Have plans to try it soon in Common Source and Common Drain circuits, both Mu and Choke loaded, very soon; first one should be most likely Warbler, nothing else than choke loaded source follower stage, with all bells and whistles of proper biasing and buffer and yadayada 35Vdc-ish single rail, Iq 3A-ish for Big Tokin, 2A-ish for 2SK2087C 'nuff for today and yes, it seems SissySIT (42) is now official edition (Caliph instead of Caliph, (42) instead of R.3) problem is , I'm feeling as living Groundhog Day ...... whatever I'm doing, it always seems as same amp Iznogood ( Caliph): LightMatic and vinko je reagovao/la na ovo 2 Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Jul 2, 2022 Autor Share #19 Napisano Jul 2, 2022 LightMatic je reagovao/la na ovo 1 Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Mikorist Napisano Jul 2, 2022 Share #20 Napisano Jul 2, 2022 Radio slušaš ? Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Jul 2, 2022 Autor Share #21 Napisano Jul 2, 2022 kad nema ko da mi napravi DAC LightMatic, NIXIE and Mikorist je reagovao/la na ovo 1 2 Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
zerowaf Napisano Jul 2, 2022 Share #22 Napisano Jul 2, 2022 pre 52 minuta, Zen Mod reče Ono radiona...majstor tu nesto radi, a u pozadini alibabina pecina. Kao one fotke iz garaza u kojima vidis 250GTO ispod hrpe nekakvih kartona (RCA) , Alfu Giuliu Coupe pokrivenu tonom prasine i po njoj poslagane kante od Jupola (Revox) i M3 kabrio koji, sudeci po prasini, nije paljen desetljece i pol (FW). Majstora to nista ne obadaje. To je tu tako...steta da se baci, pa neka stoji. Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
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