sp300b Napisano Novembar 12, 2010 Share #617 Napisano Novembar 12, 2010 Ma nist ti ne verujem...dok to Sloba ne sastavi i protrese. Tek onda pravim. Sinc(o), hvala na poverenju, i da ti kaže Sinc(o), pravi slobodno. Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Sync Napisano Novembar 12, 2010 Share #618 Napisano Novembar 12, 2010 Hocu..Tek sam prosli vikend prepravio babela na dual mono. Znao sam da ce biti bolje...al bas ovoliko. Milina je povuci prekidac a da to proprati apsolutna tisina. Za klasu bolji uredjaj u zvuku...pogotovo kad nema zujkana koji probija do zvucnika. Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
sp300b Napisano Novembar 12, 2010 Share #619 Napisano Novembar 12, 2010 Hocu.. Tek sam prosli vikend prepravio babela na dual mono. Znao sam da ce biti bolje...al bas ovoliko. Milina je povuci prekidac a da to proprati apsolutna tisina. Za klasu bolji uredjaj u zvuku...pogotovo kad nema zujkana koji probija do zvucnika. Milo mi jako, dakle Dual Mono Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Tea-Bag Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Share #620 Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 So after soldering out all transistors, replacing all new one's - using a brand name solder - swapped out all the caps - the second channel runs ! I have to blame Gerd for slapping me around off thread to get me moving on this.I suspect that the components were fine, just a marginal solder joint somewhere.With default resistors, 470R runs 9.4 , Source resistors run about .86v like channel one. offset is below .03v R12 and R25 like to run near 0R to keep offset the best. I will play with this more tommorow to bring the juice up if possible, although it did not seem to budge much after several turns.It looks sp300b has changed at least one of the 12k resistors to 4.7k. I also have to re-read a bit here as I believe swapping 220R resistors for 180R (I may have done that in other channel, it's been so long), may benefit bias procedure.Anyways, I am happy it's playing music. I will do my best to get it presentable in a chassis soon for some main speaker listening. Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Autor Share #621 Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
sp300b Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Share #622 Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 :cheers:p.s. I've changed all Three 12K resistors to 4K7. Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Autor Share #623 Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 nice .... Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Autor Share #624 Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 so - Generg - ...... what's up , Dude ?working on something interesting now ? Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Autor Share #625 Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 so - let change of 3 resistor values from 12K to 4K7 be official just in case - quote from one of previous posts - first power up procedure : PSU - biggie Donut via Variac ,Graetz , 2x33mF Spragues R9 in ( factory preset) mid position , R12 and R25 on min/short position voltmeter on output for offset ; goal is zero voltmeter across any 1R source(drain) resistor ; goal is 1V for 2A Iq both inputs grounded fired up , due to cascodes in front LTP everything came to life at approx +/-15Vdc Iq around 1A5 , offset around 350mV up with PSU at approx +/-18Vdc check and set voltage across R3 to 9V4 ( that's 20mA through LTP) fiddle with R12 - offset to zero Variac - full PSU voltage +/-22V5 again R12 - offset zero R25 - fiddle .. go to (preferably )1V across 1R ; everything in range of 750-1000mV is fine done; edit : schm deleted by ZM Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
generg Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Share #626 Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Hi Zen Mod, :Viannen_loungelizard: I feel fine, I build up very slowly Babelshark J2 boards you sent me in your generosity......! I am building very slowly to make no faults and to enjoy this building with the feeling to have something extraordinary......why should I change to 4,7k ? Is there less heat in Q7/8?? I have to do it now, because I just do these part. As to the preamp problem, I tried Aleph P with Semisouth R550 but there was no significant change.... but ZVN3310 did a good job! He could stay! The buffers must wait, first Babelfish!You suggested to change J103 in Pumpkin for a complementary pair?Hi tea-bag, happy to hear you are ready with the second channel, so I am eagerly waiting for hearing impressions from you and sp300b! :baklja: Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Autor Share #627 Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 ....... in your generosity......! ..... wakoo Schwäb ...... why should I change to 4,7k ? Is there less heat in Q7/8?? I have to do it now, because I just do these part. ..... more control current for both CCS-es ( input one and one for biasing of upper Jfet )I have proper parameters with 12K triple and BC556B-s , but seems that sp300b have problem using BC560-s so - this way - every control bjt is having ~3,3mA through ; that means - plenty of control current , what means more stability You suggested to change J103 in Pumpkin for a complementary pair? ..... your typo I presume that you have few 2SK170BL around ? try them instead of J310-s , as core LTP in Pumpkin or 2SK369BL ...... if you have them .... Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Autor Share #628 Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 motor city is burning ......... MF!!!!630 posts/43 pages ! Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Tea-Bag Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Share #629 Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 I am able to bias it up to .910v no problem, and offset seems approachable.I am using BC560c - all I can seem to find @ digikey, I get around .61-62v there, okay, but 4.7k won't be big change.I put on the 13v protection diodes as well, mounted them on top. Have surgery next week (gall bladder gone ) hopefully I will be able to crap normally after that. :bathroom: So I don't think it will move into full system soon. Unless I get some duct tape and plywood like sp300. Which is a solid possibility.Still lots of work outside to do --- Snow is coming! Got all kinds of crap outside my house lying around, keeping up the white trash persona. Got to move it in to keep wife happy. Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Autor Share #630 Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 .......good luck with health issues ;get back soon , able to sit down Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
sp300b Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Share #631 Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Very nice. Glad to hear some other J2 ongoing well.I'll wait some MOX resistors 1/3W to come (santa claus have promised) and then it will go to Babel box instead the babel PCBs.And then will be totally and time for me to and Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Autor Share #632 Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 spwill ya send me eagle files for ( if I remember correctly that you started something ) our Babelfish UGS ? Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Daudio Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Share #633 Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Very nice. ........Today I looked into a SP cellar....short beautiful.I wait for the final court finals. Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Autor Share #634 Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
sp300b Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Share #635 Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 spwill ya send me eagle files for ( if I remember correctly that you started something ) our Babelfish UGS ?No Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
sp300b Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Share #636 Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Today I looked into a SP cellar....short beautiful.I wait for the final court finals. Thanks for the Test loudspeakers Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Autor Share #637 Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 No Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
Zen Mod Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Autor Share #638 Napisano Novembar 13, 2010 Thanks for the Test loudspeakers any listening today ? Link to comment Podeli na ovim sajtovima More sharing options...
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