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So, here is a little something.

This project has been ongoing for 8 years by now, and for some strange reason it's about to come to an end.

The electronic part is the result of a collaboration between Zen Mod and yours truly.

The box is the result of my need to escape the reality from time to time :P


First a schematic:


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just keep them coming :P
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One of the latest steps: A machined PCB.

Initial layout by Spavleski, trimmed to snuff by yours truly.


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Which has been populated by now.

Some of the components will look familiar to the members from behind the ex-iron curtain.



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Greetings Magura,
please tell what's the voltage on cascode MOSFETs' drains, and what's the "BIG DONUT" choke ?
If those 47R/1W resistors see voltage close to +20V there will be a lot of smoke, but who cares, it's smoke induced circuit anyway :P
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Pogledaj porukuSipi, za Apr 28 2009, 10:56 PM, kaže:

Greetings Magura,
please tell what's the voltage on cascode MOSFETs' drains, and what's the "BIG DONUT" choke ?
If those 47R/1W resistors see voltage close to +20V there will be a lot of smoke, but who cares, it's smoke induced circuit anyway :P

those 47R are there just for fun ......

intended for deflorating the amp , during first full throttle test
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Pogledaj porukuZen Mod, za Apr 29 2009, 12:02 AM, kaže:

those 47R are there just for fun ......
intended for deflorating the amp , during first full throttle test :P

To deflower it, first it has to resemble the flower - this one you can only debug ;) :P
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Pogledaj porukuSipi, za Apr 28 2009, 11:56 PM, kaže:

what's the "BIG DONUT" choke ?


The "big donut" is a 2 x 90mH air core choke.

The "big" part of "big donut" , refers to its physical size.

Approximately 350mm diameter, and 120mm tall. Some 20kg of copper :P


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Pogledaj porukuMagura, za Apr 29 2009, 01:24 AM, kaže:

The "big donut" is a 2 x 90mH air core choke.
The "big" part of "big donut" , refers to its physical size.
Approximately 350mm diameter, and 120mm tall. Some 20kg of copper :P
Magura ;)

WOW ! ;) You must have inherited a copper mine!
Really impressive!
I thought you'll use some toroid transformer's center taped secondary - this way, with air core inductor, it will hardly find a way to average DIYer's heart ;)
Nevertheless, keep up the good work and please keep us informed on progress! :P
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Pogledaj porukuSipi, za Apr 29 2009, 09:18 AM, kaže:

WOW ! ;) You must have inherited a copper mine!
Really impressive!
I thought you'll use some toroid transformer's center taped secondary - this way, with air core inductor, it will hardly find a way to average DIYer's heart ;)
Nevertheless, keep up the good work and please keep us informed on progress! :P

If only I had inherited a copper mine :P That would have made this a little less daunting to the bank account ;)

Actually, I am just an average DIY'er, but have spent a little more time than most are willing to. This construction is really not that much more expensive, than what you frequently see people build. I just have put the money where I thought it is important, and haven't spent them on silver capacitors and fancy wire.


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Here you can see one of the more fancy solutions. A shielded inductor, for the CLC filter.

To make a shielded air-core inductor is not as simple as it may seem. It requires a balance of ferro-magnetic and non magnetic shielding material, to leave the inductance unchanged, and not get in trouble with saturation.

This I got around, by making a "cup" of ferritic stainless steel, and a base that doubles as a heat-sink, of copper.

To get the heat transfered to the copper base, I have potted the whole thing.



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Pogledaj porukuMagura, za Apr 29 2009, 12:32 PM, kaže:

...Actually, I am just an average DIY'er, but have spent a little more time than most are willing to...

Absolutely true, but then again, your dedication to detail, especially in mechanical domain, is well known :P
I would rather unload the truck of bricks than wind a 90 mH air core coil - don't know why but I'm really reluctant when it comes to coils (maybe because I worked many years with short-wave transmitters) and that makes your work even more impressive in my eyes. Your fancy coils I won't even comment :P
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Pogledaj porukuSipi, za Apr 29 2009, 01:55 PM, kaže:

.....
I would rather unload the truck of bricks than wind a 90 mH air core coil - ....


it's easy when you are winding them on lathe (or milling gadget) , not sissy winding machine :P

and - especially - when your woman is , in fact , winding those coils ..... while you are sitting

:P
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Pogledaj porukuZen Mod, za Apr 29 2009, 02:20 PM, kaže:

it's easy when you are winding them on lathe (or milling gadget) , not sissy winding machine ;)
and - especially - when your woman is , in fact , winding those coils ..... while you are sitting
:P

That's the way to do it:
- You want equal rights honey?
- Good, how about some thick wire coils? :P ;)
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Pogledaj porukuSipi, za Apr 29 2009, 01:55 PM, kaže:

I would rather unload the truck of bricks than wind a 90 mH air core coil - don't know why but I'm really reluctant when it comes to coils (maybe because I worked many years with short-wave transmitters) and that makes your work even more impressive in my eyes. Your fancy coils I won't even comment :P


If I had the choice, I'd too take unloading a truck, rather than winding those coils, any day :P Nasty type of work if you ask me.


Then you should also know how nice coils are (once made that is), I for one have had some very nice experiences with inductors, and as the copper price has gone down a bit, they're not even all that expensive anymore.

As Zen Mod says, I used a lathe for winding them, but to tell you the truth, it didn't make much of a difference to how sore you get ;)
-And no, we don't have that much equal rights here, that I get inductors served for a hug and a kiss ;)


Magura ;)

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Pogledaj porukuZen Mod, za Apr 29 2009, 02:20 PM, kaže:

it's easy when you are winding them on lathe (or milling gadget) , not sissy winding machine ;)


:P


Difference mainly being, that a lathe does not hit the max weight limit :P



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Pogledaj porukuMagura, za Apr 29 2009, 05:52 PM, kaže:

.....

in any case - send my kisses to your avatar :P
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Pogledaj porukuZen Mod, za Apr 29 2009, 06:04 PM, kaže:

in any case - send my kisses to your avatar :P


Will do :P



Here is the finished shielded inductor.

5mH, good for 20A.


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Pogledaj porukuMagura, za Apr 29 2009, 07:07 PM, kaže:

Will do :P



Here is the finished shielded inductor.

5mH, good for 20A.


Magura ;)

when finished - I wanna all these pics , each one no smaller than 1MB :P
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Pogledaj porukuZen Mod, za Apr 29 2009, 07:27 PM, kaže:

when finished - I wanna all these pics , each one no smaller than 1MB :P


I'll make a folder, and save the pics then.



It's also getting more interesting now, as it's not just a bunch of funny looking parts. Now it's actually possible to tell they have a purpose (sort of).



Magura :P




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