AD1865 / AD1862 / PCM63P NOS USB DAC (blast from the past)

[shonne]

[Zen Mod]

a sta mu to, za nas iz zadnjih redova 

 

[shonne]

Spdif i toslink 🤗

I dalje cini mi se da imam neki komad cs8416 za share...imam i ove trafoice kome treba. Samo da se uljudim i odem u grad 😶

[Zen Mod]

5 hours ago, Mikorist said:

Da nisi i ti poludeo da praviš ovo ili mi se priviđa ? 

sta mogu kad me oce, ene stize poklon iz Amerika sledece nedelje

ono, to cu crtam kad sam zaludan, zabave radi

a sto rece nixie za shiftere, a sto mene ne pade na pamet - ako ocu vise ulaza (USB + nesto + nesto) onda mora da koristim shiftere

iskoristicu Pavouk PCM1702 za pamet, a ostalo cemo slazemo okolo sve na jedan pcb, milijardu shunt regova malihmalecnih

 

 

[Mikorist]

pre 22 minuta, Zen Mod reče

okolo sve na jedan pcb, milijardu shunt regova malihmalecnih

Mene samo zanima tvoj I/IV all jfet kosher kako izgleda. Odnosno Erno Borbely edition DAC.

[NIXIE]

Zene zašto baš 1702? 

[Mikorist]

pre 9 minuta, NIXIE reče

Zene zašto baš 1702? 

Zato što je prodao Y 

[Mikorist]

Opet me forum pretplatio na postove 

[Zen Mod]

12 minutes ago, NIXIE said:

Zene zašto baš 1702? 

zato sto je taj najbolji

a pcm esam prodao, no sam ga vise poklonio svrabezu

[shonne]

Nemoj samo ovako zen jfets dac da izgleda...🙏😁

 

[Brijac]

1702 je sustinski naslednik pcm63. Po nekom bolja po nekom losija 😁 

[Mikorist]

TIER 1: PCM63 The best sounding DAC with the smooth in all frequency response, great depth, large soundstage, very good details and very intimate sound is only achieve with this one and the only PCM63 DAC. The music played from this DAC are full bodied, every stings stung and all musical instruments deliver with emotional and passion. No others DAC can achieve this top tier list except this PCM63.

TIER 2: AD1862, AD1865 They are both have similar sound signature. Lots of details, great soundstage, good depth, very balanced sound quality and nice sounding vocal. The AD1862 slightly better on mid-range than AD1865, but you might hard to spot the difference when both DAC are test using ABX method in listening test. AD1865 is very easy to build and still easy to obtain these day. In contrast, AD1862 is one of the rarest DAC IC after the PCM63, yet very hard to build since it need 4 separate power supply for each IC.

TIER 3: PCM1702, PCM1704, TDA1541 I put those DAC as the third tier because they have their own weaknesses compares to above tiers. Lets say the PCM1702 and PCM1704 shared the same sound signature. Both of them have very wide sound stage, great details and speed. But both of them sound more analytical, more dry and thin especially in the vocal. In contrast, the TDA1541 has very good midrange. Very forward midrange presentation (can be good or bad, depends of the listener preference) with multi dimensional, multi layer depth of vocal sounds. But TDA1541 lacks of details, narrow soundstage and mellow. It is very opposite to the PCM1702 and PCM1704.

TIER 4: PCM56, PCM53 They are both the oldest R2R DAC from the same company. They also have similar sound signature. Both of them are sound good especially on the midrange, but of course not as good as TDA1541. This PCM56 and PCM53 have a good detail but narrow soundstage. Those DAC have many weakness especially on the sound presentation is lack of dynamic and the high frequency are slightly noisy. But they are both much better than any delta sigma DAC I've also mentioned above. For the PCM53 is slightly better than PCM56.

TIER 5: TDA1543 Smooth midrange. That is the only strong points of this DAC. All frequency are dull and collapse. The soundstage very narrow. No detail. I still think that TDA1543 is a delta sigma DAC but in more simple/ less number of the current converter (Dynamic Element Matching) architecture.

Those are my thought about the sound quality from each vintage multibit R2R DAC IC that I've ever built and experienced. Those are the most popular multibit DAC IC that have a good sound quality reputation among the audiophiles.

 

THE ORRONOCO AUDIO DIY: Vintage Multibit R2R DAC Tier List

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[Brijac]

Ne mozes uzimati tudji tier list za tako nesto Ja volim rakiju od sljive vise nego viski, gomila voli viski vise nego rakiju, a ima i onih koji se tripuju da je viski superiornije pice pa se loze da ga vise vole 😂 Suma sumarum, retko sta moze objektivno da se gleda

[shonne]

I dalje guras txt ve nekih papaka koji nesto pisali 😁😛

[Mikorist]

pre 4 minuta, shonne reče

I dalje guras txt ve nekih papaka koji nesto pisali 😁😛

Svako gura svog papka 

[Mikorist]

pre 23 minuta, Brijac reče

Ne mozes uzimati tudji tier list za tako nesto Ja volim rakiju od sljive vise nego viski, gomila voli viski vise nego rakiju, a ima i onih koji se tripuju da je viski superiornije pice pa se loze da ga vise vole 😂 Suma sumarum, retko sta moze objektivno da se gleda

U krajnjem slučaju nije ni bitno - bitno je da piješ svoje piće - svojom rukom napravljeno. Za početak aparat za destilaciju napraviti. Pa svoju burad. Pa uzgajati voće....itd...itd...

 

Svaki gore čip će da zvuči jako slično na Miro PCB. Sve vuče na istu aromu buradi. 

[Zen Mod]

there is a difference

za vecinu onoga sto sam ja pisao, ti imas potvrdu u sobi

go figure

[Mikorist]

Pa i za PCM63P  imam potvrdu u sobi. 

A uskoro će i još njih da ga ima u sobi. Jedno 8 njih. Pa nek upoređuju sa gornjim TIER list pa nek pišu utiske.

Ene, da li sam se ja odjavio odavde ?

p.s.

Nemojte da mi šaljete više na Vajber da dolazim ovde molim Vas - nemam vremena - jedva stižem i Vajber poruke da vidim trenutno.   

[Brijac]

33 minutes ago, Mikorist said:

U krajnjem slučaju nije ni bitno - bitno je da piješ svoje piće - svojom rukom napravljeno. Za početak aparat za destilaciju napraviti. Pa svoju burad. Pa uzgajati voće....itd...itd...

 

Svaki gore čip će da zvuči jako slično na Miro PCB. Sve vuče na istu aromu buradi. 

Imam malo i iskustva u tom segmentu, pravim svoju medovinu, vino i rakiju 😁 Ali i dalje mogu da kazem da sam probao bolju medovinu (schramm), kao i da je artisani sljivovica premium ukusnija. Sve je stvar ukusa, i treba biti objektivan u subjektivi 😁 Dok ne cujem i jedan i drugi necu moci reci sta mi je bolje. 

[shonne]

Voda, Bogom dana...Najbolje da se ne pije nista 😁

Slusajte muziku, pravite uredjaje i uzivajte. 🤗

Izmenjeno Septembar 24, 2022 od shonne

[Brijac]

Za pobozne, sveti sava pravio vino i komovicu 😁 

Slazem se, meni se polako skockavaju delovi sistema i to me cini jako srecnim, muzike sve "vise" 😇

[shonne]

1 minute ago, Brijac said:

Za pobozne, sveti sava pravio vino i komovicu 😁 

Slazem se, meni se polako skockavaju delovi sistema i to me cini jako srecnim, muzike sve "vise" 😇

Ma slazem se, ali za neke nije ni vino ni komovica, kad se pretera 😁